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Understanding HHO Amperage

 

I do not want to confuse those who have very limited knowledge of basic electronics, so I will not go into deep explanations of the Electron Theory. Instead, I will simply state that "Amperage is the flow, or movement, of electrons on a conductor - such as a copper wire or stainless steel plate". The electrons get pushed or pulled out of their orbit around their atom - by a force. In our case, that is with HHO or Electrolysis of water, It is the voltage that supplies the force.

Voltage is electrical pressure. Your automobile creates it while you drive, and stores it in a battery. Everything in your automobile that operates on voltage, gets its power from the battery. The battery even supplies power to the alternator; even though the alternator is what puts voltage in the battery.

What I need you to understand is that the alternator creates the voltage as it turns. The voltage causes electrons to move down a wire and into the battery. The electrons run all of your electrical parts. The more electrons you use, the harder your alternator has to work to keep the battery charged. The harder the alternator works, the harder it is for the engine to turn it. The movement of these electrons is called current. We measure it with an ammeter. The unit of measure is in amperes or Amps for short.

I hope you are with me at this point, because I need you to understand that increasing the amperage of a hydrogen generator, can affect the fuel economy of an automobile. It can raise it or lower it.

A hydrogen generator, better known as an HHO generator, or cell, uses voltage and amperage to force water to give up its molecules of hydrogen and oxygen gases. The amount of gas depends mostly on two things; how well the water passes the amperage, and how much amperage travels across the electrodes surface area. The electrons do not pass through the metal plates; they travel around the outer surface. They take the path of least resistance. So it is very important to evenly space the electrode plates equal distance apart; perfectly parallel to one another. If not, current density will not be equally distributed across the plate surface. If that were to happen, heat would build up at close crossings. We do not want that to happen.

The electrodes in the hydrogen generator are called Plates. The plates are normally made of type 316L stainless steel (because of the durable characteristics of the metal). The hydrogen and oxygen molecules form on the plate surfaces. So, the more surface area, the amperage potential we have.

It has been determined that 1 square inch of plate surface can efficiently electrolyze 0.54 amperes. It is also know that 1 ampere can produce 0.0003689 Cubic Feet/Minute of HHO gas (Faraday). You see, the hydrogen needs one square inch and the oxygen needs one square inch. Faraday is describing a cell (two plates separated by water). The plates are generally spaced 1/16 or 1/8 inch apart. So actually we need one square inch of sandwiched surface area (one square inch from each side of the water). Look at it as if you have a one inch square sandwich; hydrogen is made on one side and oxygen on the other. It will be much easier to understand. Here is why. Our HHO generator is going to need a lot of plates; in pairs. Each pair needs to have the same amount of surface area (sandwiched). The total of all of that surface area is going to be a big factor in how much amperage the cell can operate with efficiently, and the amperage is going to determine how much hydrogen and oxygen gas we make. That is the theory.

It has also been determined that electrolysis of water is most efficient at 1.24 volts (Faraday says 1.24v, Brown says 1.48v, and Boyce says 2.0v). I just recently discovered that NaOH minimum voltage is 1.69 and KOH minimum voltage is 1.67. As it turns out, the electrolyte solution affects the voltage drop. Faraday's 1.24 volts was based on sulfuric acid. Keep in mind, the voltage is the electrical pressure. So, if we keep the voltage, between our sandwiched plates, at or close to 1.24, we will not have any problem with heat, as long as we can keep the amperage per square inch of each sandwiched cell, at no more than 0.54 amps, That is the formula. That is the trick. Through trial and error, I have concluded that Faraday's 1.24 volts is difficult when using 12 to 15 volt power sources, because of the amount of electrolyte needed to lower the resistance of the water. We need a balance of sandwiched square inches of plate surface, 0.54 amps per square inch, and closer to 2.0 volts, more or less, as Bob Boyce says. Around 2 volts will provide long operating times.

Let's look at our operating voltage; our charging system and battery. The voltage varies, depending on automobiles, but it usually is between 12.5 volts and 14.5 volts. A single sandwiched cell needs let's say 2 volts. We do not have a 2 volt power supply, we have a 12 to 14.5 volt power supply (more or less). So instead of using electronics to achieve our goal, we will simply chain multiple cells together, with positive from the battery on one end, and negative from the battery on the far end, with additional plates between them forming cell water areas. Each cell will cause a voltage reduction (drop). The voltage drops need to add up to be close to 2 volts (measured across any two adjacent plates). So divide the operating voltage by 2 and you will get the number of cells (water areas) needed. Now round off the number to the nearest whole number. In the following example, "n" represents electrode plates, and the space between the "n's" represent water areas (cells). The "n" is what we call a neutral plate (that is another subject).

Examples:

  • 12 / 2 = 6     7 plates would provide 6 water areas, 2 volts each (that is close).
    The cell configuration would look like this +_ n_ n_ n_ n_ n_ - (count the 6 spaces)

  • 12.5 / 1.24 = 10.08   11 plates would provide 1.25 volts   10 plates would be 1.39 volts.
    10 cells would look like this + n n n n n n n n n -

  • Don't let this confuse you. I built a configurator that will do this for you.

What we know so far is that enough plate surface area is needed to produce the amount of HHO we need, at no more than 0.54 amps per square inch, at or near 2 volts per cell. That is it. that is the balance we need.

You can make 1 liter of gas, using less surface area, simply by increasing the amperage. But the result will cause excess heat. Nearly every Hydrogen Generator on the market is designed this way......to produce excess heat. They use higher amperage than their surface area can handle.

Now that we have a good plate configuration based on the operating voltage of our automobile, how do we get the amperage we need. We start with the spacing between the plates. The closer the plates are, the less resistance there is in the water between them. Water has very high resistance to electrical current. We have to add electrolytes to it to make it pass electricity better. The more electrolyte we add, the lower the resistance gets. When the resistance gets low enough, current (amps) starts moving through the water. The lower the resistance gets, the more amperage we get through the water. If you build a cell with half inch spaces or gaps between each plate, you will need to use twice as much electrolyte as you would if the spacing was a 1/4 inch. Still better, 1/16 inch gaps would provide even less resistance. But do not go less than 1/16 inch. If you do, you will not leave enough space for the gases to travel through. Gases will keep the plate surface clear of water. We need the water on the plates at all times. Keep in mind, as the electrical pressure increases (that is the voltage or the amperage) so increases the HHO output.

There are a lot of Hydrogen Generators on the market. Some of them proclaim good output; some proclaim good efficiency; some proclaim how cool they operate. They all have one thing in common, they make Hydrogen and Oxygen gas, one way or another. I hope now you have a better understanding of what makes these generators work. You can use the Cell Plate Configurator I built, to check the efficiencies of their cells.

One last thing, remember the alternator I mentioned in the beginning? The harder it works, the harder it is for the engine to turn it. Amperage is the reason. So if you are using that alternator to supply the amperage, your Hydrogen Generator is going to make the engine work harder. If you want better fuel economy, you will need to limit the extra load that your Cell causes. You will have to find that happy medium. For instance, when you run your air conditioner, it affects your fuel mileage some what. But the air conditioner does not put energy back into the engine; in our case, the Hydrogen Cell does. So limit your HHO production to the efficiencies of your alternators resistance to the engine. If you are not seeing any fuel efficiency improvements, then you need to look into changing the Air/Fuel ratio that is controlled by your engines Computer. That is another subject.

   

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