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Cost Justification of HHO Kits

   
   

"Why are these HHO Companies asking so much money?"
Your website offers some information on the subject. I am looking for better mpg.
You recommend GES as having the best dry cell out there. The kit for my vehicle would cost $685
plus installation, because I am not going to spend a full day installing it
myself. It would take 5-6 years to recoup the cost of putting it in. Why are
these companies asking so much money. Is there a less expensive alternative?

   
There is a saying "You get what you pay for". HHO is experimental. The metals used are subjected to caustic water environments and electrical charges. Type 316L stainless steel is expensive, yet it is the least expensive of the metals that work the best under the
harsh conditions. Not only that, but it is a very hard metal to cut and drill. The most popular HHO Generator style is the Dry Cell design. The electrode plates, when assembled, form their own water containment. Special holes are cut in each plate for allowing water compartments to refill and circulate water, and allow HHO gases a means of escaping. The alignment of these holes is critical to the generators operating efficiency. All of the hardware, that comes in contact with the water, must be made from the same
316L metal, or from plastics that are capable of handling the caustics and the heat that is generated.

The assembly of all of the above is also critical to the operation. Plate spacing must be exact. The parts must be the exact size. The plates and gaskets are either cut by CNC laser or water jet cutters. The machines are computer programmed and controlled. That means someone has to program every detail about the size, shape, special dimensions, and holes. That requires building an electronic blue print to follow. The process is tedious and expensive. The metals are expensive. The shipping of special order parts are expensive. HHO companies are forced to build these generators in quantities, in order to keep costs down. They buy 4'x8' sheets of metal that normally sell for $25 a square foot; and sheets of specialized hard plastic, and sheets of specialized gasket material, and then there are assembly bolts, washers, and nuts (all 316L stainless steel). The parts list goes on.

Because HHO is experimental, not just anyone understands how to install it; or what is require to install it, or what safety precautions need to be made. When you order a Kit, as you say, it contains all of the normal hardware; the wiring, the wiring connectors, the hoses, the clamps, the Bubbler Tanks, the power controller, the gauges, the installation Manuel and instructions, and a lot of times it contains special electronics to control or fool computerized electronic exhaust emissions systems.

Most companies provide you a choice of purchase; just the generator, or the kit. It is your choice. You choose to build the unit yourself, purchase an un-assembled generator, purchase an assembled generator, or a complete kit.

There are low cost units and kits available. Once you see a quality unit, you will be able to recognize a low quality unit. Sometimes, the only difference is "What's Inside". Sometimes the only difference is Customer Support. Sometimes the difference is only shipping and costs associated with it.

The electronics may be the difference in cost. The PWMs supplied to power the cell may be the reason for high costs. The type of ammeter, analog or digital, plays a part in cost.

I can see how you are concerned with the expense. I have done all of this on my own, without any knowledge of the performance outcome of my own Build. I assure you, Experimenting is not cheap. It can be a blessing to purchase a product that has gone thru testing and found to be reliable and quality enough to offer to the public. I don't know if Geshho is the best company, but I state, "They are the best I have seen".

If better mpg is what you are after, it is an uphill battle. We are forced to use computerized emissions systems that keep us from obtaining the Best fuel efficiency. We are forced to buy gasoline's that have been blended to keep us from obtaining the Best fuel efficiency, and to keep us from using additives that used to provide better fuel efficiency - before all of this blending of fuel started. You want better mpg, with the least expense, lighten your load, air up your tires, use better synthetic  oils, use better breathing Air filters, use Volo Performance Chips (they work even without HHO), us Pulstar Pulse Plugs to increase your ignition spark, coast when you
can, coast to a stop, don't turn so sharp, use high mileage rubber and tires; and if you can afford it, buy fuel efficient to start with. Purchase a Scangauge and use it to monitor your driving habits.

You have a choice; drive the way you do or drive greener. That is the most mpg rewarding thing you can do. Help your engine breath more air (the oxygen in the air is what makes the combustion). Help your engine reduce friction. Help your engines Spark. Help your wheels turn easier, roll easier.

HHO is not a miracle cure. It only works if the computer allows it. Remove the computer control and it does work; every time. We need a higher percentage of Oxygen in order to get better fuel economy. The problem is, the computer maintains 14.7 parts air with each part of fuel vapor. 14.9 makes a big difference; 15 even better.

People usually zero in on the generator and forget about what else is needed to make the whole system work. This is a gimmick that many companies use to reduce the overall cost. For example they exclude PWM and EFIE. Also, the amount of driving will determine how fast you will recoup the cost. A person commuting 80 miles to work and back, will recoup the cost much faster than someone using the car to go to the supermarket and back.

I hope - somewhere in my answer, you find the answer you are looking for.
 

   

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